With Claus-Harald Güster
We need to protect
our social gains
While Claus-Harald Güster, vice
president of Germany's Food and Gastronomy Workers
Union (Nahrung-Genuss-Gaststätten - NGG), won't be
attending the Buenos Aires Conference, he spoke with
SIREL about certain trends that are shaping the
dairy sector in Germany, namely the elimination of
production companies and jobs, and the possibilities
of protecting the workers' social benefits.
-Who will be representing NGG at the Buenos Aires
Conference?
-Since unfortunately I won't be able to be there
myself, due to a conflict at
Coca-Cola,
the NGG delegation will include Peter Störling,
who's in charge of our Dairy Workers Department, and
two other members: Franz Morgret and Ernst
Valentin.
-In general terms, how do you see the situation of
the dairy sector in Germany and Europe?
-Germany
is the leading dairy producer in the EU, with 33,000
workers. But that number is dropping steadily.
We're working against that trend.
There's a structural transformation underway today,
which, among other aspects, is reflected in
the
fact that in the past fifteen years the number of
dairy farms has been halved, with the greatest
reduction happening over the last five years.
At
the same time, the number of milk processing
companies has been reduced by two-thirds,
a process that was accompanied by huge job cuts.
More
than 10,000 workers in the dairy industry lost their
jobs in that period.
But there's another situation that seriously affects
us: in global terms, our dairy producers operate in
small units. Producers are highly exposed to
pressure from retailers; they're caught up in a race
to lower prices, including dairy product prices. A
liter of milk and half a kilo of butter are among
the list of goods that retailers choose to lower in
order to attract customers.
To do
that they pressure producers to cut their prices so
severely they no longer reflect their real value.
-What problems and challenges do producers and the
labor movement face?
-Producers are forced to abandon their small-scale
production and need to adjust to business policies,
because, like dairy processing sites, they have to
deal with five retail companies with a large number
of stores. Hence the need to move towards greater
concentration. I don't see any other alternative.
As for dairy processing sites, we've signed
Collective Bargaining Agreements that reflect what
we've achieved in our negotiations with employers in
terms of social benefits. So any person who finds a
position as a skilled worker after completing the
three-year training program in the dairy industry
will earn approximately 2,200 euros (2,800 US
dollars) a month.
The
average workweek is 38 hours.
Workers also enjoy other general benefits, such as
annual leave, bonuses, vacation pay and additional
premiums such as night work, overtime, and other
supplementary payments.
So we
have a number of social gains for which we fought.
-And what about trade union membership?
-Of
the 33,000 workers in the sector, some 13,000 are
members of NGG. It's a good level of unionization,
but it could be better.
Moreover, there are companies with a high rate of
unionization and others with a low rate.
In many companies, then, there are possibilities of
fighting to defend these gains, so that workers
won't suffer the consequences of the changes the
market is undergoing .
-Is the concentration of the dairy industry also an
issue in Germany?
-There are major companies in Germany, the
largest being Nordmilch, but there's also the
Müller group, Humana, Hochwald
and others. Nordmilch and Humana are
implementing some kind of shared services; the two
companies opened a sales office in North Germany,
for example. Something's happening there. Still, the
sales of the three largest European players
in the sector -Arla
(Denmark),
Campina
(Netherlands) and
Lactalis
(France)- are three times higher.
-What are your expectations for the Buenos Aires
Conference?
-Above all we hope it'll be a chance to learn about
other situations; I would've liked to receive the
information firsthand, but I have to speak from the
perspective of someone who won't be attending.
I would have liked to learn what's happening in
other countries, in the southern hemisphere; and I
also would've liked to contribute to discussions.
Our delegation will be in charge of presenting and
conveying the situation in Europe.
I'm personally interested in seeing how other labor
organizations defend the rights of their workers and
what gains they achieve, because I think such gains
could be very useful as reference points to guide
our actions.
We have to ask ourselves: In which cases did an
organization effectively represent its workers'
interests? And, what useful lessons can such
experiences contribute? It would be very arrogant to
think that we're the only ones with something to
teach others. On the contrary, we need to know about
any successful agreements subscribed with companies,
about all the collective bargaining agreements that
exist, and what labor-management relations are like
elsewhere. Anyone trained in the German model of
co-management will always be interested in learning
what labor-management relations are like in other
cases
-What role can the IUF play?
-I think the IUF can play a major role, as it
can help further expand our common information base.
That's the role it has. And it can advance in this
sense by contributing to enhance information-sharing
efforts at the Conference.
It's a key aspect, even considering what I said
earlier: we don't always have the opportunity of
flying all the way across the world to see how
things are in situ.
Just today I visited Rel-UITA's website to learn
more about certain issues, and I think it's
important that such information is available, and
that it be complemented with direct contacts. It's
something we obviously need to do.